Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Mar 3, 2010 #1 . Hunting distances on deer I dont think there is enough difference to matter. The .270 Win. Ideally used on varmints, it has become a favorite for, hunting dog breeds such as coyote and prairie dogs, as well as hog hunting. A hit an inch in any direction from the aiming point is still a dead deer. Cons: Lengthy action and heavier gun. It ushered in a new era for American hunters, with a muzzle velocity in excess of 3000 fps, and a bullet big and heavy enough for big game. I've killed a 175lb hog with my AR with 60 grain Winchester ballistic silver tips. The Ruger Gunsite Scout Rifle chambered in 5.56 for shooting .223 ammo. Looking at the table above, it immediately becomes apparent that the .25-06 Remington is ballistically superior to the .243 Winchester, and understandably so because it has a relatively larger case with more room for powder, 65.8 grains vs.only 54.8 grains in the .248 Winchester’s case. Model 700 .243 Winchester with a state-of-the-art 3-9x variable scope (relatively new at that time). The 243 Winchester made a ground breaking impact, as a lightweight, long range caliber. Comment. BALLISTIC ANALYSIS. Post Cancel. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction; that is one of the physical laws of our universe. B. Re: 223 vs 243 vs 270. by banoob » Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:40 pm I'd be staying away from the .223 if you're after boar. The .243 Winchester cartridge, introduced in 1955, is very popular. This hunting rifle may be smaller than most, but it packs a pretty good punch from varmints to medium-size game. Cheers and happy shooting!! Ballistics comparison is shown below (courtesy of Chuck Hawks) I have used both and prefer the 270 for longer ranges as the … petemacsydney Sergeant Posts: 626 New South Wales. And, if you're a 7mm fan, don't overlook the deadly 7mm-08 Remington. 32 0 0. Anybody got advice on 223 vs 243 vs 270? The .308—a fine design in and of itself—has been responsible for a number of successful cartridges, but the .243 has to be the most successful. Brief History of the .243 Winchester. 270 vs 30-06: Ammunition Selection. Its very tame. You’re looking for a minimum of 900 foot-pounds of energy at impact on a deer so the hunting bullet works right. There are no smaller calibres or cases dropping into the .22/.250 or .222/.223 centrefire market, but across Europe these all seem to drag behind. Not always a fantastic component bullet (left to right) .223 Rem, .243 Win, .308 Win . Originally chambered in the Model 54, the .270 Win. deth502 New Member. Less than an inch difference in drop and drift gives it the win. This means that the momentum of a rifle's reaction will exactly equal the momentum of the bullet and powder gasses ejected from the barrel. Longer track record. DavidTurley, Mar 3, 2010. John 1.Humans are more important than Hardware. Thanks for the input! .270 Winchester is a long action (A .30-'06 necked down) while a .243 Winchester is a short action (A .308 Win necked down) Long actions are generally susceptible to more flex than short actions, and take longer to cycle the bolt (all other things being equal). The 243 WSSM has also been deadly on elk. .243 will kill a hog. Well as you say you can never have too many rifles. The grendel has less recoil than the 243, more than a 223. Besides that I think Treestand said it all! That’s a case capacity difference of 20.07% favoring the .25-06 Remington. The .270 Winchester and .30-06 Springfield are two of the most popular cartridges for hunters in the United States. Impressive ammunition. shines! I vote for the .243 Winchester. The .243 Winchester cartridge will be effective and easier to find on gun store shelves. Pronghorn country is windy country and there is where the 270 win. Looking to get a new deer rifle for this coming up season, last year I hunted with my dads Ruger M77 MKII chambered in 7mm Rem. 2 0. dca2003311@yahoo.com. This is because doubling a projectile’s weight doubles its kinetic energy, but doubling its velocity quadruples its kinetic energy. 243 win vs 270 win Discussion in 'Hunting Forum' started by DavidTurley, Mar 3, 2010. It can accept bullet weights from fifty up to one hundred grains. Discussion Starter • #1 • Feb 6, 2014. Create more recoil by 15% than the 6.5 version. Plus the .270 has way more commercial loadings which is helpfull to the non handloader. This round is a modification of the .308 Winchester. P _____ Are you ready for the Zombie apocalypse? And the deer certainly won't. Tko88 ⭐ Join Date: Feb 2017; Posts: 28; Share Tweet #6. 02-27-2017, 06:40 AM. Consult your ballistics charts to look at energy at various distances with the bullet you’re shooting. Both cartridges have the same .473″ rim diameter. gun store shelves and the small number of rifles chambered for it) and a higher cost. was introduced in 1925 along with a new Winchester bolt-action rifle—the Model 54. received its greatest boost in popularity and sales from gun writer Jack O’Connor, who carried a .270 around the globe. Although my dad and older brothers used it, I was the one most responsible for its substantial barrel wear. A big selection of rifles. Something else enlightening is retained energy downrange. For this reason, the .270 Winchester is used in standard/long action rifles, while the .308 Winchester is the poster child for short action rifles. They go back and forth on what’s better between a .270 Winchester, a 308 Winchester and a 30-06 Springfield. I doubt many hunters -- big, little, veteran, or novice -- are capable of determining if they or the bullet missed by an inch at 300 yards. * It has been used in and for shooting in One-Thousand (1000*) Yard Matches using the 115 grain bullet with Great Competitive results. The 243 Winchester versus 7mm-08 Remington race is won by the 243, but not by much. is an outstanding caliber and for the gear head that I am the 243 WSSM is just as outstanding. An Overview Of 6.5 Creedmoor Vs. 270 270 Winchester. Many a deer has fallen to a .243/6mm diameter bullet throughout the years. That drops to around 50ftlbs at 300, and the 6.5 takes the lead past 450. Winchester rolled the .243 out as a commercial cartridge in 1955. DavidTurley New Member. It dropped him on the spot but it took another 4 rounds to put him down for good. It … The .243 Winchester (6×52mm) is a popular sporting rifle cartridge. Pros: Better performance at medium ranges. * It is recommended by Winchester for Hunting Whitetail Deer, Mule Deer, Black Bear, and Antelope. The blacktail deer, whitetail deer, mule deer and pronghorn have also been hunted with much success using the 243 Winchester. Lv 7. 2.Quality is better than Quantity. With a 100gr bullet in the 243, and a 123 in the grendel, the 243 has 100ft-lbs more than the 6.5 at the muzzle. starts with a bullet weighing 55 grains less than the 30-30, but its additional 750 fps muzzle velocity gives it 213 f-p more energy at the muzzle. The .270 Winchester has a significantly longer case length (2.54″ vs 2.015″) as well as overall length (3.34″ vs 2.81″). Available in .270, .30-06, .300 and .338 Win Mag for over a year, a .243, .270 WSM and .308 Winchester are now available too. But, some experienced hunters will tell you go with the .243 caliber rifle. I was just shooting my Winchester Model 70 in 270 WSM at the range this week along with my 7mmSAUM and I found that the recoil … In 1925 Winchester necked down the .30-03 to .277 and created the .270 Win., a sporting cartridge designed for medium-size game that shot flatter yet recoiled less than the .30-06 Springfield. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to … 898 Posts . Currently, it ranks sixth among the best selling cartridges in the USA, just behind the .270 Winchester and ahead of the 7mm Remington Magnum. Rounds of at least 90 grains are better suited for hunting the larger of those while rounds less than 90 grains are more suitable for varmints. The 243 Winchester has a awesome amount of different bullet weights to choose from compared to the 270 Winchester. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 17 of 17 Posts. The .243 compares well with the .308 in terms of distance trajectory. The balance of light recoil and versatility as both a varmint and big game cartridge quickly led to the .243 being one of the most popular rifle chamberings in the world. 9 years ago * Its the 243 Winchester you want to go with. Mar 3, 2010 #2 . The .243 was developed as a descendant of the .308. The reasons for the enduring popularity of the .243 are well summarized by Chuck Hawks in his article The .243 Winchester: Top. It’s a mystery exactly why Winchester chose the .277-inch bullet diameter. The 243 Win. And the latest cartridge to push this 6mm bullet does the job quite well. It became one of our most used rifles on the ranch for taking coyotes and pests but was also used for deer and antelope hunting. I was definitely leaning towards bring the .270 along with my 300. Introduced in 1955 the .243 Winchester is based on the 7.62x51 military (.308 Winchester) case necked down to .243” (6mm). The 6.8mmSPC is also effective, but has limited availability (i.e. Knowing their differences is important to all gun owners, especially those interested in hunting and competitive shooting. The .243 can cover for the bigger as wella s the smaller in case you have rifle issues at some point. * Its also makes a Great Varmint … The .243 Winchester is a round used to hunt deer and similar sized animals, some people use it on larger animals but it really isn't made for anything much bigger than a deer. )Author Ron Spomer has shot most cartridges from 22 CB cap to 505 Gibbs and taken … The .243 Winchester is simply the .308 Winchester necked down to hold .243″ diameter bullets. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .22-250 Remington vs .243 Winchester ammo rounds. Then later you can always cite bigger deer as a reason to get a 7mm/270 or .308 . There are other well suited calibers like the 270, 30-06 etc, but what really counts is the shooter. .243 Win vs. 308 Win. The fact that the .243 is essentially a necked down .308 means that the bullets are smaller and less wide. If you want more power you can go up to a 260 Rem, a 7mm-08 or a 270 Winchester and get more without too much recoil. So I think that a 243 Win is a great caliber for a small teenager. 6.5 Creedmoor Table, 250-yard Zero 270 Winchester ... For a review of a 24-caliber alternative to the 6.5 Creedmoor, check out this overview of the venerable 243 Winchester, a deadly deer cartridge with even less recoil than the Creedmoor. The .243 was originally introduced in 1955, and gained traction because of its versatility. Initially designed as a target/varmint round, it may be used for animals such as coyotes, blacktail deer, whitetail deer, mule deer, pronghorns, and wild hogs. 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